Old Bus Tickets

Douglas Corporation – Insert Setright and Gibson

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Here we have an Insert Setright, and a Gibson, both from Douglas Corporation Transport in the Isle of Man. I think the Insert Setright system was only used on the Onchan circular services (out via Promenades, return via St Ninians or vice versa). This extended outside the borough boundaries, and was operated jointly with Isle of Man Road Services, who used both Ultimate and Insert Setright tickets. (There wasn’t time on an urban route to faff about with the tedious Automacheckit system used elsewhere on IMRS).
The Gibson was issued in 1967, and was for a fairly short journey on one of the five 1957 Guy Otters, colloquially referred to as Wolsey’s camels. Mr Wolsey was, I believe, the General Manager of the transport undertaking. It was the policy on DCT vehicles to have rather large route number and destination displays. (You could read the number of a bus from half-way along the promenade). This was all very well on double deckers, but a different matter on the little Otters with their 26-seat Mulliner bodies. They had a tall protrusion above the level of the roof, both front and rear, to carry the route indicator, which gave them a strangely top-heavy appearance. Hence the two-hump camel sobriquet. I can’t remember where route 3 went, though I have a feeling it might have been Governor’s Bridge via Summerhill Road.

Photograph and Copy contributed by Stephen Ford

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28/12/11 – 16:10

IOMRS replaced their Ultimates and Automatickets with inserts Setrights, and Douglas Corporation also received inserts Setrights at about the same time, mostly replacing earlier systems.
The machines were ex-Aldershot & District and the single and return tickets (but not the weeklies) of both IOMRS and DCT were copies of A&D tickets. The weeklies were copies of Wilts & Dorset tickets if I recall correctly.
IOMRS had also obtained a batch of Dennis Falcons from Aldershot. The probable reason for all this was that the General Manager of IOMRS, William T Lambden had previously been employed at A&D.

DRH – Transport Ticket Society

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30/12/11 – 09:13

That’s quite surprising. I can easily see that Insert Setright was a massive advance in issuing speed from Automacheckit for IOMRS, but I would have thought it was a serious slowing down for Douglas Corporation, compared with the Gibson. Any idea what year the changeover was made?

Stephen Ford

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30/12/11 – 14:01

1966/7. A total of 144 insert Setrights were bought by IOMRS of which 24 were then passed to DCT. Douglas continued to use Gibsons on some routes and punch tickets on the horse-trams. Both operators converted to new Setright SMBs at or around decimalisation.

DRH – Transport Ticket Society

Douglas Corporation – Bell Punch

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Three things to note about these tickets first the top ticket is Douglas Corporation Motors and the rest are Douglas Corp Transport could their Horse Cars have any thing to do with this? Secondly the top ticket was printed by Auto Tickets Ltd Birkenhead the 2½d ticket by Williamson Printer Ashton the 6d ticket by Bell Punch London there is no name on the 2d ticket and the three bottom tickets all had the same advert for Jacob’s Cream Crackers. Thirdly there is no price on the top ticket I have blown it up so it can be read easier the red type by the way says ‘Example Ticket No Value’ I am not sure what the C.R stands for B. OF JNY is obviously Beginning of Journey.

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15/03/11 – 08:15

Just an alternative thought here after noticing the fare stages – could the bold vertical printing mean "CIRCULAR ROUTE BREAK OF JOURNEY TO HORSE CARS" ??

Chris Youhill

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15/03/11 – 17:48

I think the overprinting says "Exchange" rather than "Example". This raises one or two questions. Were the left hand descriptions different reasons for the issue of an exchange ticket, and I wonder what K.B. Return stands for? The named stages point to the inland route to Onchan, which certainly in later days was a circular route (Promenades and Onchan/St Ninians and Onchan). And what exactly does "Transfer Cancelled" mean? Peculiarer and peculiarer!

Stephen Ford

You are right Stephen had the magnifying glass on the ticket and it is ‘Exchange’ not ‘Example’

Peter

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16/03/11 – 14:18

Just realised KB Return must mean Kirk Braddan return. For many years (long before buses) there was a vast open air service in a field at Kirk Braddan on Sunday mornings. (The railway ran special trains to it, and I guess there were special buses too). I think it was outside the limits of the normal Corporation network, a little beyond Quarter Bridge on the Peel road.

Stephen Ford