'Please Note'

Due to amount of work involved with the Old Bus Photos website and other commitments I am afraid I have had to freeze the Old Bus Tickets website. I will leave it on line for reference purposes.
I would like to thank everyone that contributed to the site in the past if I get time in the future I may start it up again.

Peter

Todmorden Corporation – Setright Speed

Todmorden Setright

My uncle and his family lived in Todmorden from the mid 1950′s for a few years and our family would now and again go to visit for tea – as you did. This involved catching a Halifax J.O.C. Regent III or CVG6 from Stump Cross to Hebden Bridge on the 48/49 service, then a fine T.J.O.C. PD2 to Todmorden, and another one on the Cross Lee service to Ferney Lee. Then a few hours later, we’d do it all again in reverse order. A wonderful day out. I don’t remember much of the tea, but I remember the bus rides! Then the tickets were still Bell Punch rack type tickets – the only ones I personally ever encountered. Unfortunately I hadn’t started to retain bus tickets at that early stage in my life, so these later Setright Speeds are the only ones I possess.

Photograph and Copy contributed by John Stringer

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18/04/12 – 07:05

Ah, those visits to relations. When I was little every weekend we were either visiting them, or they were visiting us – my dads parents, or three lots of uncles/aunts/cousins. I have written about the three-stage trip to my grandparents in Hucknall. The other regulars were in different parts of Nottingham – one of which involved the Mapperley route 31. In the early 50s this was always operated by Daimler CVD6s, which were unusual in the AEC dominated NCT fleet. I remember just one occasion when we went to visit my dad’s cousin in Grantham. I was grievously disappointed when the bus turned out not to be the melodious Trent crash-gearbox Regent I expected, but a Lincolnshire Bristol K5G on the joint service.

Stephen Ford

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23/04/12 – 15:56

I always recall that the ticket number on TJOC Setright tickets comprised four digits whereas tickets of most other operators I have seen had only three digits.

David Slater

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25/04/12 – 09:28

If I’m not mistaken Midland Red’s Setright ticket numbers also had four digits but I can’t think of any others that did.

Alan Hall

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25/04/12 – 12:06

The 4-digit serial number was something many operators wanted but Setrights seem to have been reluctant to supply. The reason seems to have been that the 4-digit serial number mechanism was inherently less reliable.
Midland Red was by the far the biggest user; also Walsall Corporation, Eastbourne Corporation were two other 4-digit users.
Rather more unusual on the Todmorden tickets was the machine number appearing where "PENCE" bar usually appeared. The two examples illustrated are from machines 03 and 12.

DRH – Transport Ticket Society

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26/04/12 – 11:52

Of course I should have remembered about Walsall’s tickets as I spent many happy days travelling on their trolleybuses in the last few years of their operation.

Alan Hall

Huddersfield Corporation – Ultimate

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Though all but one of these carry the ‘Huddersfield’ title, note the odd 2d ticket above showing ‘Huddersfield J.O.S’. I often used to ride from Halifax to Huddersfield, and around Huddersfield itself on J.O.C. services and all the tickets showed ‘Huddersfield’ only. I occasionally rode on the Corporation’s trolleybuses too, and I’m sure they were the same. Does anybody know what the J.O.S. ticket is all about? Does it date from an earlier time?

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These later Ultimate tickets replaced the earlier version, having the fare overprinted in a contrasting colour – presumably to save printing costs. All the tickets shown here were supplied by Bell Punch London.

Photograph and Copy contributed by John Stringer

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11/04/12 – 06:13

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You might like to add the attached to the current posting of Huddersfield Ultimates. As you see it was a special issue for the last week of the trolleybuses.

Stephen Ford

Southport Corporation – Punched

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Here we have a Southport Corporation punch type ticket it is over printed ’4d Concessionary Fare’ which suggests that it is not from all that far back.  It looks like a Bell Punch ticket, but may have not been punched because there was no need to indicate a stage because of a flat fare possibly.  Any suggestions as to what this might be?

Photograph and Copy contributed by John Stringer

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07/04/12 – 09:20

This is from the final days of Southport before it was taken over by the Merseyside PTE (1 April 1974). There was an earlier 3d ticket too. Southport used Ultimates and there wasn’t a spare barrel for a concessionary ticket to be issued from the machine – at least not initially.
It was for the then limited concessionary system – in this case a flat fare on SCT buses (but not Ribble) within the borough only for holders of a Southport pass. Printer is GNP.
I think the conductor was supposed to tear the ticket at the time of issue, but I don’t have any that are punched or torn, so maybe they didn’t usually bother.
Note that the times (not stages) run from 9am to 9pm. Before 9am was ‘too early’ or as it is now termed, "twerly".

Correction – writing from memory! The 3d value was in fact a 3p (same colour) which came in after decimalisation (1971).

DRH – Transport Ticket Society

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16/05/12 – 12:40

I don’t think this was as late as 1974. The fare is shown as 4d, not 4p, so it must pre-date the introduction of decimal currency on 15 February 1971.
I was at Southport Corporation from 1969 until it was absorbed into Merseyside PTE and I don’t remember tickets like this. I’m certain that when I was there all tickets came out of the Ultimates, which were 5-bank for conductors and 6-bank for one-man drivers. Therefore I suggest it dates from no later than 1969, and the minimum normal fare was 4d then, so this was probably the flat fare for pensioners.
The concession started at 09:30, but I can’t remember a finishing time. The timetable’s don’t say.
Ribble couldn’t carry local passengers within the County Borough so there could be no question of using this ticket on their buses

Dave Cunningham

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28/05/12 – 11:09

I’ve now looked it up.
Southport was one of the few local authorities to introduce a concession scheme for the elderly (from May 1965). Eligible residents were issued with a 3d punch ticket exactly like the one above.
In 1968 when the first OMO buses appeared, these were fitted with 6 unit Ultimates and there was a concessionary Ultimate ticket in the sixth barrel. Conductors with 5-unit machines still carried the punch ticket. (A common objection to 6-unit machines by conductors was the extra weight although this may not necessarily have applied at Southport).
Fares rose on 9-2-1969 and the concession fare became 4d with the 4d punch ticket above and a 4d Ultimate ticket for 6-unit machines.
At decimalisation (1971), the concession became 2p and there was a 2p (not 3p as I suggested above) punch ticket for conductor use and 2p Ultimate ticket. These lasted until the end of SCT. However, there is some evidence that suggests that at some point, Southport went over entirely to 6-unit Ultimates with the concession ticket thus only issued by the machine. Therefore use of the 2p punch ticket may have been short-lived.
My point about Ribble was that the Southport scheme was introduced under the Travel Concessions Act (1964 or 1965). Under this Act, a local authority had powers to grant concessions on its own buses (if it ran them) but did not, I think, have powers to include other operators (where they existed) in such a scheme.

DRH – Transport Ticket Society

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29/05/12 – 17:50

I do not know when or how I came to acquire this ticket. I certainly did not receive it as a passenger !
I assume it was given to me in a small job lot of assorted tickets by another enthusiast once. The chances are that if six-bank Ultimates were universally introduced, there may well have been a stock of unused tickets which found there way into enthusiasts’ hands.

John Stringer